Talk:Executive arrangements

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What existed before

What existed in UK before ? For me this article could apply to any democratic form of local governement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericd (talk • contribs) 01:29, 14 September 2002

Hi, Eric,

It isn't so much what existed before, as many councils are still ordinary councils without cabinet or are only just starting to go into this type of local government.

The point really is that in a council of the traditional type, all councillors of all parties and persuasions would meet in chambers, etc., and would go through precedures in the normal democratic way - sometimes a slow process.

In a cabinet-style governing body mainly the local party in power would be represented in the cabinet and form the policies of the day with the democratic checks and balances being gone through by the various committees consisting of all parties, to whom all decisions have to be passed for scrutiny and agreement.

Cabinet style was first very much criticised as being less democratic than the original type of council but criticism seems to have abated at this time, at least, in the Croydon example.

The replies were mine, sorry got logged out somehow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dieter Simon (talk • contribs) 19:21, 14 September 2002

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I have added a range of citations and brought other elements of this up to date but it does need more work.Edhammond2 (talk) 01:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Elected mayor and council manager

Okay, I was able to get some answers to my questions after deeper research. But I'd still like people more familiar with local governance in the UK (particularly England) to make some clarifications on this page, including:

1. It appears that Elected Mayors are still not "exeuctive" mayors in the sense that they are in a place such as the United States, and that is probably an important distinction to add. They are not chief executives of their local authority; they can not appoint & dismiss officers and other employees; they do not head up the civil service of their authority, etc. It appears statutorily to still be a mostly ceremonial position, though one with its own staff and office and such.

2: In that same vein, whether Elected Mayor and cabinet or Leader and cabinet, it appears that the cabinet members still remain councillers of their wards, and are able to vote on things that come to council that they propose in their in role as cabinet members. Again, in places like this U.S. in a mayor-council system, this is notable as there is a clear separation of powers; a counciller can not be part of the city government

3. Finally, to kind of tie this all together, it appears that it is an appointed Chief Executive - or equivalent officer - who actually handles the day-to-day operations of a local authority. It would be helpful in this article to make a subsection or even just a paragraph, clearly stating this fact, regardless of whether we're talking about elected mayor-and-cabinet or leader-and-cabinet. This honestly seems to most relevant and important point. Might even want to describe the statutory office of "head of paid service" of an authority, since they are not always "Chief Executives."

Let me know what you think or if I understood any of this incorrectly.--Criticalthinker (talk) 21:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]